Vet AdvicePosted by passionatePetparent745

after moving cross country last fall and interviewing four separate vet practices over six months for our 8 year old german shepherd mix ruthie, here is the actual meet and greet protocol i wish someone had handed me at the u-haul, the four questions i now send by email BEFORE i book the appointment, the specific after hours ER referral question that separated our excellent vet from three merely fine ones, the fear free intake language to listen for, and the one enormous red flag i learned to walk out on the day of, which is any practice that refuses to put a spay dental or bloodwork estimate in writing

Ruthie is our 8 year old german shepherd mix, 64 pounds, cranky at strangers, hates the wet nose bump from other dogs, moderately anxious at the vet since a rough nail trim at age 3. we moved from albuquerque to charlotte last september for my wifes job and i spent from october through march finding her new vet, i thought that was going to take a saturday and it took six months and four practices to land somewhere i actually trust, and i want to write down what i learned in case anyone else is staring at google maps with 40 red pins in a five mile radius and no clue how to sort them, because "read the reviews" was completely useless, every practice had 4.6 stars and 400 reviews and none of that told me a single thing that mattered about how ruthie was going to be treated on a bad day. this is a recommendation post not a rant, our current vet is genuinely wonderful, but the path there was a lot longer than it should have been and i think about half of it was self inflicted from asking the wrong questions.

the actual protocol, which i now use like a template. i send a short email BEFORE i book any appointment, four questions, and i read the response as much for the tone as the answers. one, can you email me a written estimate for a standard dental cleaning under anesthesia for a 64 pound senior dog, i understand it is a range and i just want the range on paper before i become a patient. two, when you are closed, is there a specific emergency clinic you refer to, do you have a working relationship with them, and will my records be shared automatically or does that require a call. three, what is your intake protocol for a dog with mild handling anxiety, specifically what happens in the first two minutes of the exam, and is anyone in the practice fear free certified. four, if ruthie ever needs a behavior consult about her anxiety around handling, do you consult with a veterinary behaviorist yourself or do you refer, and if you refer, to whom. that is the whole email. the practices that responded thoughtfully within 24 hours had a hit rate of about 90 percent of being places i wanted to be a patient. two of the four practices i interviewed either did not respond at all or sent a canned "please call us to book" back, which is data.

the specific red flag i want on a poster. practice number two in my search, high volume, big waiting room, three stars four point six, refused to put a dental estimate in writing over email, said "prices change," refused to put one on paper AT the meet and greet visit itself which i had paid $85 for, said again "prices change and we do not do written estimates." i asked twice, politely, then walked out. i want to be really specific about why this is a walk out and not a quirk. a dental under anesthesia for a senior shepherd mix is a $700 to $1400 procedure at most practices in my metro, the range is not a secret, and a practice that will not put the range in writing before you say yes to it is a practice that will hand you a bill on discharge day that they know you cannot argue with because your dog is behind the door. this is not paranoia, it happened to us in albuquerque with ruthies first dental at a practice we had been going to for years, $2100 final bill, no itemized preauthorization, we paid it because what were we going to do. the vet we ended up with in charlotte emailed a four line estimate before we walked in the door for the meet and greet, $840 to $1180 including pre anesthetic bloodwork, extraction fees itemized separately if needed, no upsells at the front desk. it was $980 in the end, one extraction, we paid it happily. the written estimate is not a small procedural preference, it is the entire consent and trust architecture of the relationship, and i now treat "we dont do written estimates" as a full sentence answer to "should i be a patient here."

the after hours ER referral question is the one that separated the good from the great, and i want to say why. practice one and practice four both had a specific answer, they both referred to the same 24 hour ER, they both said "we call ahead, they get your records, they call us in the morning with an update, we call you." practice three said "there are several emergency clinics in the area, most are fine." that difference is the entire difference. when ruthie ate a rib bone at 9pm on a wednesday six weeks after we picked our vet, i called the ER, they already had her records, they knew her thyroid meds, they knew about the anxiety at handling, they had her in a quiet room within eight minutes, no history intake at midnight while my dog is in distress. that saved us maybe 40 minutes and a lot of ruthies panic, and it exists because our vet actually has a working relationship, not "an awareness of," the local ER. ask the question that specifically, "do you have a working relationship, will records be shared automatically." vague answers are the answer.

a few smaller things i now do. i ask what SSRIs they will consider for anxiety, because "we dont really do that here" is a signal that behavior medicine is not their gear and if you have a dog like ruthie you will eventually need it. i ask about the intake experience specifically, "what happens in the first two minutes, do you weigh her on the floor or on a table, do techs offer treats before touching, can we do a get to know you visit with no exam first, is there a room she can wait in that is not the lobby." fear free certification is a real credential and it shows up in the answer whether they say the words or not, look for "we offer a happy visit," "we do treat first exams," "we skip the temp check if shes stressed and get it during induction instead." the practices that talk this way have thought about the dog. and the last one, which i almost dropped from this post because it felt petty, ask how they handle owner presence in the back for procedures like nail trims and blood draws. some practices are dogmatic about "we do it in the back," some let you be in the room if it helps, ours does treat first nail trims in the exam room with me sitting on the floor and it is the difference between a dog who dreads the vet and a dog who is fine with it. i have zero problem with practices that do it in the back for their own workflow reasons, i just want to know before i sign up, not on the day of.

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